BIX Animation Conference: CBIX 04/09/1995

[DaveM.]* No wonder I’m leaving this place The software still says (C) 1986!
[Emru]* Hi, Dave!
[DaveM.]* Hello, Emru!
[Emru]* Hey, are you sure we can’t make you reconsider?
[DaveM.]* No, I’ve packed my bags. This place done me good for five 1/2 years.
[hmccracken] Howdy, all!
[DaveM.]* Hello, Harry!
[Emru]* Then we have no choice. Expect the hired goons to pay you a visit.
[Emru]* Hi, Harry!
[DaveM.]* They don’t know where I live.
[Emru]* Of course they do. They’re hired goons.
[DaveM.]* THey can find out if they /sho res. My current address is in there.
[hmccracken] (And this being the Animation Conference, these are the goons
from _Thimble Theater_.)
[DaveM.]* …In fact, everyone knows where I live except the Ex-Girlfriend From
[DaveM.]* Hell… and I did a good job of comvering my tracks.
[DaveM.]* How has everyone’s weekend been?
[Emru]* Speaking of Thimble Theater, one of the local second-hand bookstores
had a compilation of old Popeye strips for sale… when I finally decided to
buy it, it was gone.
[hmccracken] Hmmm. Which one — the old one from around 1970?
[Emru]* Not bad, Dave. Got my Apatoons on Friday and haven’t had the time to
read it.
[Emru]* Not sure, Harry. It had a yellow slipcover.
[DaveM.]* I hope everyone is looking forward to the Alumni Issue.
[hmccracken] It’s an unusually good _Apatoons_ — but issue #80 should be a
doozy!
[DaveM.]* I didn’t evpect the turnout for 79 that I got!
[Emru]* Yeah — fifty copies? Whoo!
[hmccracken] Yes, I think that’s it. It’s a good collection, but doesn’t have
anything that the Fantagraphics volumes don’t.
[hmccracken] Welcome, Robair!
[Emru]* Hey, Robair!
[DaveM.]* Hello, Robair!
[Robair]* Hello, everyone!
[DaveM.]* Long time, no talk to.
[Robair]* Hee heee!
[hmccracken] Well, do all we U.S. citizens have our taxes done?
[Robair]* If I owe money, you can bet I didn’t.
[DaveM.]* Done months ago and the taxes were paid for with Nancy’s refund.
Don’t ask how, but it’s mathematics.
[DaveM.]* Robair won $107 dollars from his local radio station. Guess the
frequency, Kenneth.
[Robair]* And I got the check on Friday, and it’ll be put right into the bank.
[Emru]* Got mine taken care of months ago. I get something like $200 back.
But that’s only Canadian dollars.
[hmccracken] I’m waiting for the President to sign this bill that will let me
write off my health insurance for last year! It’s on his desk but he hasn’t
signed it yet.
[DaveM.]* That is about $2800 for you and me.
[hmccracken] I’ve never been so interested in a bill before!
[hmccracken] When’s the deadline in Canada?
[Emru]* No, Dave, it’s the other way around — $200 Canadian is about $140 US.
[Emru]* End of the month, I think.
[DaveM.]* You guys will be happy to hear I had a blood test yesterday, and the
sugars were normal.
[hmccracken] That’s great, Dave!
[Robair]* Very good!
[Emru]* Checking for diabetes? My blood test came back normal, too.
[DaveM.]* So I think we’re out of the crisis zone for the time being.
[hmccracken] Speaking of health, I recently filed a claim on my insurance, and
got a letter back saying that my plan had lapsed!
[hmccracken] Apparently my employer forgot to sign me up for health insurance.
[DaveM.]* Yes, Emru. It came up high on an insurance physical.
[hmccracken] Thank heavens that the claim was for my eye test, not a heart
transplant or something.
[Emru]* Ah. It just runs in my family.
[DaveM.]* Since then I’ve been doing intensive exercising and dieting. I lost
20 lbs., and I feel great. I bought a Large shirt for the first time in years
today!
[Emru]* I just cut down on sugar intake and drank more milk. Exercise? Who
has time? 🙂
[DaveM.]* I couldn’t do that. My wife thinks I’m lactose intolerant.
[Robair]* I can swear I’m losing weight, and I’m not trying that hard–just
altering little lthings in my diet, eschewing sweets…
[DaveM.]* We don’t even have milk in the house!
[hmccracken] In other news, I just got back from San Francisco and will be
leaving again on Wednesday…]
[Robair]* How can you be lactose intolerant and I drink milk by the gallon?
[Emru]* Harry < Speaking of bills becoming laws, weren't the new Schoolhouse Rock shorts supposed to start airing this year? [DaveM.]* How are things in Frisco? And do they look at you funny if you step off the airplane and say "Hello, Frisco!"? [hmccracken] They kill you if you get off the plane and say that... [DaveM.]* She says it's from eating cheese. [hmccracken] Things appeared to be fine, but I didn't do much on this last trip, since it was only two and a half days and I was booked for most of it. [Emru]* I eat cheese by the pound. [Emru]* So Harry, what's the deal with San Francisco? [DaveM.]* Gee, Robair and Emru, America's Dairy Farmers (tm) would certainly love you for that! [kipw] Moo! [Emru]* Hi, Kip! [kipw] Hi gang! [Robair]* Hello, Kip! [hmccracken] I'm going down there for three months on a temporary assignment for PC World. [DaveM.]* Moo yourself, Kip! Howare things in Newort News? [hmccracken] (They asked me to relocate permanently, but I didn't want to.) [Robair]* Cheese is GROOVY, man! Especially when washed down with eggnog! [kipw] Rather jolly. I was just watching the television set. [Emru]* That's some assignment! How come my editor doesn't give me assignments like that? [hmccracken] This 3-month deal sounds good, since they're springing for an apartment... [Emru]* No can do for me, Kip -- I'm allergic to eggs. [kipw] 3 months where? [hmccracken] Welcome, Kip! [hmccracken] San Francisco... [DaveM.]* But he does eat cheese by the pound. [kipw] You have me confused with Robair. (Happens all the time.) [hmccracken] I'm leaving on Wednesday. [kipw] Good deal! [hmccracken] Kip<--- Are you aware of a British cartoonist named Kipper Williams? [kipw] Didn't Frank reprint a cartoon by him last time? [Robair]* Did he do a strip called the Kipper Kids? [DaveM.]* We've discussed him in APATOONS. I think he works for Beano, or Viz, or one of thise jolly rags. [hmccracken] Maybe so...I saw his work when I was in London last month. [kipw] The Kipper Kids aren't a stip. They're wierd-ohs. I like em. [hmccracken] I saw his work in one of the daily papers. [kipw] I don't think Kipper Williams draws for VIZ, but I'd like to see A Kip Williams work for them... [DaveM.]* But who did the Weird-Ohs? Wasn't that Bill Campbell? [kipw] Which Wierd-Ohs? Like the model kits? [DaveM.]* Yes, definitely. [hmccracken] The Big Daddy Roth type things? [kipw] I always liked "Davy," "Digger," and (most of all) "Daddy." [kipw] My heart belonged to it, you see. [kipw] It was the archetypal suburban commuter, with a hat and a suit, but a face like the Rat Fink. [hmccracken] A bit of PC World/comics related news: [DaveM.]* They're back in production with those kits. I saw a few in the hobby shop the other day. [kipw] Hmmm... [hmccracken] We used to have a strip by Mark Marek (I think?) -- _Two-Fisted Management_ [DaveM.]* We used to cheap knock offs OF Peanuts. [Robair]* Yes, P-NUTS. [DaveM.]* Marek's one of those National Lampoon guys. I think his art style was somewhere between a five year old who could draw and a six year old who couldn't. [hmccracken] Does anyone here remember _Shrimpy_, the Peanuts knockoff from old issues of Archie comics? [Emru]* No! [DaveM.]* Robair probably does. [kipw] I've seen Shrimpy. Also some pathetic knockoffs from an old Timely mag. [hmccracken] Right -- it was either by him or by one of his legions of imitators. Real new-wave stuff. [Robair]* Yes, Shrimpy, the boy who got progressively smaller as the strip went on. [Robair]* I think it was backup for Pat the Brat. [kipw] Marek, though, had actual content. I came to like his stuff, despite the style. [Robair]* Which was a Dennis the Menace knockoff. [DaveM.]* No, Robair. You're thinking of The Incredible Shrinking Joe Franklin. [hmccracken] LOL, Dave! [kipw] Rather, in his hands, the style seemed to make sense. I liked "Dirty Father Harry" and "Hercules: His Adventures among the North Americans" [DaveM.]* "I'm sorry, Joe. Due to your decreasing size, we're going to have to let you go." "But I've got George Jessel lined up for next week!" [hmccracken] Well, I don't know if we should wait for others to show up... [kipw] Sigh. That was almost the lat time the Friedmans were funny. [hmccracken] ...I assume we all remember the rules for BIX trivia? [kipw] ...last, rather... [DaveM.]* Only the Friedmans could work Paul J. Smith into a strip. [kipw] Shortest first name wins by default? [hmccracken] That would be Ro. [kipw] That Drew sure can draw, though. Pencils, anyway. [DaveM.]* I thnk he said "Oh yeah! Well f--- Disney and his g--d--- mouse." [hmccracken] Or Bair. [Robair]* Hooray! [kipw] They call me "k" [Emru]* They call me "" [DaveM.]* Like my wife says, "Don't call me late for dinner." [kipw] I think they just don't call you, Emru. Sorry. [hmccracken] When I was in San Francisco on Wednesday, I saw a virtual reality type ride from Iwerks Entertainment... [Emru]* *Wah* [hmccracken] ...It was great to see a giant sign with the word IWERKS on it. [DaveM.]* The second greatest name in animation gets its long overdue due. [kipw] I think I'm in one of those. I get up and go to my virtual job and get a virtual salary every couple of weeks. [hmccracken] Let's start the game in five minutes or so. [DaveM.]* I saw some of "The Great Race" last night. I hadn't seen that film in years. [hmccracken] The Blake Edwards flick? [kipw] Yeah, on AMC. [Emru]* Film? You mean movie? When was the last time I saw one of those? (Aiiieeee.) [kipw] As Gecko noted, "Didn't they base Wacky Races on this?" [DaveM.]* I believe he directed it. And as I'm sure you all know, that film won an Oscar for sound effects editing. [kipw] And Geck was right. They even stole gags. [DaveM.]* The man who won that Oscar was none other than Treg Brown. [hmccracken] My favorite Edwards film (in fact, the only one I like) is _The Party_. [hmccracken] How is Gecko, anyway? [kipw] I'm fond of the original PINK PANTHER. [DaveM.]* How is the big Geckman? [hmccracken] I guess I do like some of the PP films. [Emru]* I haven't seen Pink Panther in years. [kipw] He's at work just now; otherwise okay. He was in a Walk-a-thon today, [kipw] just like Beavis and Butt-Head. [hmccracken] Speaking of the Panther, there's a new theatrical Pink Panther short coming out this Friday, along with The Pebble and the Penguin. [kipw] They laid out the course one-way, so he ended up walking twice as far. [DaveM.]* We've got one coming up in a few weeks. I've got sponsorship materials on my desk at work, but none so far. I'm thinking of also riding in the upcoming Tour de Cure. [kipw] I'm glad they still show cartoons with cartoons. [kipw] Did anybody see "Animation Sucks" on B&B-Head? [hmccracken] This new short is called _Driving Mr. Pink_, and co-stars someone called (I think) Voodoo Man. [DaveM.]* It's the March of Dimes Walk America, on April 30. [Emru]* I can't wait for the Jones short before Batman; I was getting annoyed at all the new cartoon shorts showing before movies I wasn't going to see. [hmccracken] I don't know if the Panther speaks in it or not. [kipw] "...Rosebud..." [Emru]* Voodoo Man? I think that's one of the new characters from the first new episode of PP. [Robair]* If he's going to return to the big screen, he's got to be mute. That's the whole point. [kipw] Well, as a practicing Santerian, I'm offended! [DaveM.]* This was the one that was supposed to be out before "It Runs I The Family", which I don't think was ever released. It was originally called "Streetlight Serenade" sor something like that. [hmccracken] Well, should we start the trivia? [Robair]* May as well! [Emru]* a) yes! [DaveM.]* And he is called the Voodoo Man, and he's from the current Pink Panther show. [kipw] So, anyway, Beavis & Butt-Head's teacher gives a long speech about the joys of animation... [Emru]* Do I get a point? [hmccracken] Do we all remember the rules? You send your answer to me as a /msg. [kipw] Sorry, we don't use msg. [kipw]
[DaveM.]* That was a test.
[DaveM.]* It didn’t work.
[Emru]* It got to me.
[HarryM]* (Note that I just changed my name to HarryM.)
[DaveM.]* Wait ! I gotta change my function keys.
[Robair]* So it’s /msg HarryM.
[kipw] Function keys… you rich kids…
[HarryM]* OK, are we ready!
[DaveM.]* I set up one for each possible response. Any nerd with Windows
Terminal can do it. 😉
[HarryM]* er, ready?
[kipw] Yep.
[HarryM]* Here we go…
[HarryM]* QUESTION ONE
[HarryM]* CHUCK JONES
[HarryM]* After Chuck Jones left the Warner Bros. cartoon studio in 1963, he
tried several different jobs,. Which one of the following is *not* one of the
ones he held?
[HarryM]* A) Artist/writer of _Crawford_, a short-lived newspaper comic strip
[HarryM]* B) Consultant to Disneyland, where he created the Country Bear
Jamboree show
[HarryM]* C) A vice president for children’s programming at ABC
[HarryM]* D) Producer/director of a new series of Tom and Jerry cartoons for
MGM
[HarryM]* E) None of the above; Jones did all the aforementioned things.
[DaveM.]* F) shoe-fetishist and publicist of Marla Maples
[kipw] F) Shy, retiring introvert.
[DaveM.]* BTW, Harry, Nancy says hello!
[HarryM]* Time’s up!
[Emru]* H) Second-in-command to Baby Doc.
[Robair]* Already?
[HarryM]* Everyone got this right — B). And hello Nancy!
[Robair]* Wasn’t the Country Bear Jamboree there by 1963?
[DaveM.]* I think it was installed int he park the first day.
[kipw] Heck no, it has “1970” written all over it, doesn’t it?
[HarryM]* I don’t think the jamboree opened until 1975 or thereabouts.
[DaveM.]* So does “The Boatniks.”
[HarryM]* And it opened in WDW first.’
[Robair]* 1975? No, I think it’d been there in at least the 1960’s. My Disney
lore is rusty.
[HarryM]* Next question coming up…
[HarryM]* QUESTION TWO
[HarryM]* MUSIC IN ANIMATION
[HarryM]* Who are the Randy Van Horn Singers?
[HarryM]* A) An award-winning jazz group formed by Randy Van Horn, a Hollywood
animator in the 1940s
[HarryM]* B) The vocal trio that have performed in nearly every Disney
animated feature since 1947
[HarryM]* C) The singers heard in the opening credits of _The Mickey Mouse
Club_
[HarryM]* D) The singers heard in the opening credits of _The Flintstones_ and
_The Jetstons_
[HarryM]* E) All of the above
[Emru]* F) Diana Ross’ Supreme replacements.
[HarryM]* Time’s up!
[kipw] G) Some horny guys who played in a van
[DaveM.]* F) The Artist Formerly Known AS Prince
[HarryM]* Emru got this right: these singers specialized in Hanna-Barbera
themes.
[kipw] All right for you, Emru!
[HarryM]* They also did some work with Esquivel.
[Emru]* Woo! The Scientific Wild Guess worked again.
[Robair]* But they never got screen credit. And I can SWEAR I hear Jean Vander
Pyl in
[HarryM]* Also: the Jamboree definitely opened in the mid 1970s, but I don’t
know what year.
[Robair]* the later version of the Flintstones Theme.
[kipw] I) Three people.
[DaveM.]* I haven’t the faintest idea who Randy Van Horn was. I only remember
Paul DeKorte being the vocal contractor.
[HarryM]* Time for another question…
[HarryM]* QUESTION THREE
[HarryM]* COMICS AND THE US POSTAL SERVICE
[HarryM]* Which of the following characters is not among those honored by an
upcoming series of postage stamps?
[HarryM]* A) Brenda Starr
[HarryM]* B) Dick Tracy
[HarryM]* C) Professor Luicius Butts
[HarryM]* D) The Yellow Kid
[HarryM]* E) Pogo
[Robair]* f: Spiro Agnew
[HarryM]* Time’s up!
[Emru]* G) Papa Smurf
[kipw] F) None of the above: it’s no longer an honor.
[HarryM]* Emru and Dave got it right — Pogo is the odd possum out.
[Emru]* Not since Elvis, anyway.
[Robair]* Good kip!
[DaveM.]* That’ll be 32 Smurfs, please.
[HarryM]* What I want to know is, why won’t there be a _Playful Little Audrey_
stamp?
[DaveM.]* Coming Soon: Papa Smurf, Disgruntled Postal Worker!
[Robair]* Only because you’d probably have the kids stick it on the wall.
[HarryM]* We should get to vote for our choice of young Pogo or fat Pogo.
[kipw] Classic Pogo or Pogo Lite.
[Robair]* Besides, they all look like little TV screens.
[Emru]* New Pogo!
[HarryM]* OK, time for another question
[DaveM.]* Pogo by Walt, or Pogo by Selby>
[HarryM]* QUESTION FOUR
[HarryM]* COMICS MERCHANDISNG
[HarryM]* What is Wimpy’s?
[HarryM]* A) A British chain of fast-food restaurants
[HarryM]* B) A long-running Swiss talk show hosted by a man dressed as J.
Wellington Wimpy
[HarryM]* C) A trendy Argentinian restaurant specializing in spinach and
hamburgers
[HarryM]* D) A chain of French stores that sell nothing but Popeye-related
merchandise
[HarryM]* E) A children’s activities center at the MGM Grand Hotel/Casino in
Las Vegas
[DaveM.]* ?
[Emru]* F) I’ll gladly answer you on Wednesday for a question today.
[HarryM]* Time up, and congrats to all!
[Robair]* G) I don;t know, but you’d probably find it close to the floor.
[kipw] G) A store that sells cheap trash bags
[Emru]* I never ate at a Wimpy’s in England, but my father and I made regular
stops in Nairobi.
[HarryM]* When I was in London, I saw a few Wimpy’s, but they seem to have
faded as McDonalds et al have entered the market.
[Robair]* And olny due to gravity.
[HarryM]* They still have a fascinating offering: round hot dogs.
[kipw] I’ve eaten at one in Virginia Bech, which is now gone.
[kipw] But I have a T-shirt.
[DaveM.]* When did Virginia Beach go?
[kipw] I can get “Twirly Dogs” at Smitty’s here.
[kipw] One day they decided to stop putting in sand and see what happened.
[kipw] (Or watch “The Death of Ocean View Park”)
[HarryM]* There’s also a Wimpy’s in Las Vegas, but I think it’s unrelated to
the British cian.
[DaveM.]* It moved to Myrtle Beach, along with a box of Showmen records.
[HarryM]* Ok, another question…
[HarryM]* QUESTION FIVE
[HarryM]* SECRET IDENTITIES
[HarryM]* Who is the Mysterious Stranger?
[HarryM]* A) He turned out to be Lex Luthor, in the Fleischer Superman cartoon
_Criminal Mutiny_
[HarryM]* B) He was a secret identity assumed by Bruce Wayne’s butler, Alfred,
in a series of 1960s Batman stories
[HarryM]* C) He was a trenchcoat-wearing fellow who was really Mighty Mouse,
in a few Terrytoon shorts
[HarryM]* D) He was a superhero portrayed by Donald Duck in two 1950s Disney
cartoons
[HarryM]* E) She was a voluptuous superherione who was the idol of Daisy Mae
in _Li’l Abner_
[DaveM.]* F) The friendly stranger in the black sedan
[Robair]* F) Sitting next to Mr. Shapiro–he’s the one!
[Emru]* F) Daffy Duck’s slighted younger brother, who later killed Daffy and
replaced him with a clone.
[DaveM.]* …speaking of which, I finally sold that decrepit old car of mine.
Harry will likely know what I;m talking about.
[kipw] this HarryM seems to have all the answers…
[HarryM]* Time’s up!
[HarryM]* Dave <--I thought you got rid of it months ago... [HarryM]* Everyone except Emru knew that the MS was really Mighty Mouse. [DaveM.]* No, I only sold it this week. It's been sitting in my garage since mid-November, when I got the Windstar. [Emru]* Curses. Foiled again. [kipw] Duh, which one's that? [kipw] Which question was that? [HarryM]* Question five [kipw] 2X2L calling CQ... [kipw] Ah! Thanks. [HarryM]* And now it's time for question six... [HarryM]* QUESTION SIX [DaveM.]* Hey, if you have E, turn it on now. They're doing a behind the scenes thing on ER. [HarryM]* VOICE ARTISTS [HarryM]* Why didn't Mel Blanc want to take over the voice of Elmer Fudd after the death of Arthur Q. Bryan, [HarryM]* Elmer's original voice? [HarryM]* A) Blanc thought that it wasn't really right to imitate another performer's voice [HarryM]* B) Blanc disliked the character of Elmer, and had repeatedly asked that he not be used [HarryM]* C) Blanc didn't feel that his version of Elmer's voice was really up to par [HarryM]* D) Blanc requested an additional salary for performing Elmer's voice, which Warner wouldn't pay [HarryM]* E) Bryan and Blanc had never gotten along, and Blanc found it galling to follow in Bryan's footsteps [Emru]* F) Bryan still owed him ten bucks. [HarryM]* Time's up, and everyone knew it was A)! [DaveM.]* F) he knew that Hal Smith was warming up in the bullpen with his own pwivate game of Kill The Wion [Robair]* G) Mel had handpicked Hal Smith for the earth-shattering duty. [kipw] G) Putting in a different voice would have been a tacit admission he hadn't g been doing it all along. [DaveM.]* I've finally confirmed that the Fudd voice in "pre-shysterical Hare" was Daws Butler. [HarryM]* OK, question seven is coming... [HarryM]* QUESTION SEVEN [HarryM]* COMIC STRIPS [HarryM]* What was the original name of Bil Keane's _Family Circus_ panel, and why did it change? [HarryM]* A) _It's All in the Family_; it was changed after the succcess of the almost identically-named TV show [HarryM]* B) _The Family Circle_; it was changed after complaints by the similarly-titled magazine [HarryM]* C) _Dolly's World_; it was changed after the focus shifted to the entire family [HarryM]* D) _Little Nightmares_; it was changed because Keane hated this title [HarryM]* E) None of the above; the panel was always called _The Family Circus_ [kipw] Cool, Dave! [Emru]* F) What's wrong with Billy? [DaveM.]* THis is btter than that bar trivia game [Robair]* f) Want some tape to put this on your fridge, Grandma? [DaveM.]* G) Awww.. [HarryM]* Time's up! [HarryM]* All except Emru knew it was called The Family Circle. [kipw] H) Kill Them All. [DaveM.]* I)Hans, The Friendly Bus Driver [HarryM]* (PC World should get Bil Keane to do a strip for us.,) [kipw] That Emru! He is not OF The Body! [Robair]* j) Natural Born Jeffy [Emru]* Aargh! That was my first guess! [HarryM]* Pulp PJ [kipw] It was the seventh geometrical shape Keane tried out... [HarryM]* Question eight... [Robair]* Barfyfornia [HarryM]* QUESTION EIGHT [HarryM]* THE LITERARY WORLD [HarryM]* What is John Updike's connection with comics? [HarryM]* A) Updike's father, Samuel Updike, was a popular sports cartoonist in New York during the 1930s [HarryM]* B) Updike briefly wrote _Old Money_, a short-lived comic panel in the 1960s [HarryM]* C) Updike sued Al Capp over John Upchuck, an unflattering satire of him who appeared in _Li'l Abner_ [HarryM]* D) Updike was a cartoonist for his college newspaper, and remains a comics fan to this day [HarryM]* E) Updike wrote several episodes of the 1960s _Batman_ TV show, under the pseudonym of Al Cartwright [kipw] F) Bugs Bunny used to like to say "What's Updike?" all the time. [HarryM]* Time's up! [HarryM]* Dave and Kip knew that John was a college cartoonist. [Robair]* G) He wrote for Wimmen';s Comics and didn't have to change his name! [DaveM.]* Actually he did change his name. Robair. He felt silly when everyone called him "Trina". [HarryM]* Kip <-- I'm so tempted to make an off-color joke involing k.d. laing... [kipw] Ooh, robair... [kipw] ...have some puppy medicine... [HarryM]* ...but I won't. next quesiton coming up in a sec. [DaveM.]* I have just now gotten Robair's joke. [HarryM]* QUESTION NINE [HarryM]* DISNEY [HarryM]* What is Music Land? [HarryM]* A) A compilation animated feature hastily put together in the 1950s to fill out Disney's contract with RKO [HarryM]* B) A section of the original Disneyland that was quickly torn down and replaced with Frontierland [HarryM]* C) It was one of several proposed names for Disneyland before it opened, along with Disneylandia USA [HarryM]* D) It was a famous phonograph album of 1948, featuring Nat King Cole's versions of Disney songs [HarryM]* E) It was the nickname for the building on the Disney studio lot where all music was recorded [DaveM.]* Of course, the real answer is not there. [DaveM.]* It was a Silly Symphony in 1936. [HarryM]* Time's up... [kipw] I threw in a guess, since I didn't see the cartoon as an option. [HarryM]* Well, it's true that it was *also* a Silly Symphony short. [Emru]* The Silly Symphony was the one with the two kingdoms, right? [HarryM]* But the only correct listing I provided was A) [DaveM.]* Yes Sir! The Isle Of Jazz, and the other one. [kipw] There's a couple of pieces of art from it in the Abrams book. [kipw] The Isle of Symphony, I think. [HarryM]* Which Robair and Emru got. [Emru]* Right. I saw it for the first time last year. [HarryM]* Would we like a rundown on the scores so far? [kipw] Sure. [DaveM.]* Separated by the Sea of Discord. [kipw] Then these four guys came through in a yellow submarine. [DaveM.]* "Ask me some baseball questions, Don!" [kipw] He's pumped! [HarryM]* It's very close: [HarryM]* Dave leads with seven right, everyone else has six right. [HarryM]* Here's question ten... [HarryM]* QUESTION TEN [HarryM]* ANIMATED COMMERCIALS [HarryM]* Which of the following groups correctly lists the members of Cap'n Crunch's crew? [HarryM]* A) Seadog, Alf, Gwendolyn, Salty, Carlyle, Pirate Pete [HarryM]* B) Seadog, Alf, Brunhilde, Carlyle, Dave, Smedley [HarryM]* C) Seadog, Saltwater Sue, Dave, Smedley, Cannonball [HarryM]* D) Seadog, Alf, Brunhilde, Smedley, Teddy, Critter [HarryM]* E) None of the above [kipw] F) Crunchberry Beast and Wallace the Waffle Whiffer [Emru]* F) Flopsy, Mopsy, and Ahab. [Robair]* F) Lola, Patricia, Ana, Maty (he's been at sea TOO long) [HarryM]* Time's up! [HarryM]* Dave and Robair have obviously been eating too much cereal: B) is right. [kipw] Smedley? I don't remember any Smedley, and I read all the comics as they came out, in the boxes. [DaveM.]* We overdosed on that stuff when we were kids. And it took my blood sugar 24 years to catch up! [Emru]* All I remembered was Smedley. [HarryM]* Smedley was the elephant, Kip. [DaveM.]* I remembered Dave. Because Capn Crunch once said, "Like I always say, Dave" in one of the comercials. [kipw] You said the Original crew. Smedley was from Peanut Butter Crunch. That didn't come out for eyars. [kipw] Years. [HarryM]* Also: at least one ad tried to give the crew a little ethnic diversity with a Black kid as a crew member. But I don't know his name. [kipw] Does anyone remember Magnolia Bulkhead, their original foe-ess? [Robair]* Did anyone see that SNL sketch last night which just listed strange names for black children klike Kaopectate, Riboflavin and Kmart? STUPID! [kipw] Anyway, Smedley wasn't original. [HarryM]* Yes! I have a video tape chock full of Capn Crunch commercials, which includes Magnolia. [DaveM.]* I saw about 1/3 of SNL lastnight,a nd I came away from it asking myself, "Why bother anymore?" [kipw] I wish I still had those comics. [HarryM]* Well, I didn't say "original," Kip... [kipw] oops. [Emru]* I don't even turn on the TV, and I say ""Why bother anymore?" [HarryM]* The original crew was Mr. Spock, Uhura, Scotty... [Robair]* I like "House of Buggin'" a lot better. [HarryM]* Time for another question... [HarryM]* QUESTION ELEVEN [HarryM]* EARLY COMICS [HarryM]* What was Rudolph Dirks' _Katzenjammer Kids_ heavily influenced by? [HarryM]* A) _The Calamity Kids_, a popular stage play of 1890 [HarryM]* B) _Oh! You Terrible Boys_, an early comic panel by George Herriman [HarryM]* C) _The Katzenjammer Rag_, a musical piece by Scott Joplin [HarryM]* D) Charles Dickens' _Martin Chuzzlewit_, which featured characters called Hans and Fritz [HarryM]* E) _Max und Moritz_, a popular German children's book [DaveM.]* Even thought it cancelled "The Critic">
[Emru]* _Kimba, the White Lion_.
[HarryM]* Time’s up, and congratulations to all!
[kipw] F) The Captain and the Kids, by F. Dirks.
[Robair]* G) His Agent, Jeffrey Kats, in his pajamas.
[DaveM.]* H) ragtime pianist Max Morath
[kipw] I) the work of Al Plastino
[HarryM]* Does anyone rememver Mad Magazine’s Hans Und Feetz? Great stuff!
[Robair]* I remember the Katch and Hammer Kids from the Early Mad.
[kipw] That was Mad Comics, reprinted in “Inside Mad”
[HarryM]* Time for question twelve (almost half done)…
[kipw] I’m almost half done, too.
[HarryM]* QUESTION TWELVE
[HarryM]* LAUREL AND HARDY
[HarryM]* What did Laurel and Hardy’s version of _Babes in Toyland_ have to do
with cartoons?
[HarryM]* A) It featured a lengthy color animated sequence produced by Walter
Lantz
[HarryM]* B) Mickey Mouse was a character in it, portrayed by a monkey in a
suit
[HarryM]* C) The plot involved the kidnapping of one of Disney’s Three Little
Pigs
[HarryM]* D) Both A) and B) are correct
[HarryM]* E) Both B) and C) are correct
[DaveM.]* The guy who took over “Nancy” from Mark Lasky. I remember it well.
Lasky died prematurely, and I think Plastino was his assistant.
[Emru]* You’re half-baked, Kip.
[HarryM]* Dave <--Plastino wasn't Lasky's assistant, he drew the Sunday strips all along. [Robair]* It was remade in 1966. [DaveM.]* It was Bushmiller, Lasky, Plastino, and Scott. [kipw] Plastino also drew about thirty other strips by the time he dies. [HarryM]* Time's up! [kipw] I always thought the Curse of Nancy petered out too soon. [HarryM]* Emru and Kip were right: Mickey and the Three Little Pigs all appeared in the movie. [DaveM.]* And it got confusing near the end. Dick Track kissed his wife Dagwood goodnight as Jughaid watched from the balcony of Warbucks Mansion. [kipw] I remember that: Wally Wood drew it, and Frank Jacobs wrote it. [Robair]* Dick Track? Is that like Mark Trail Snail Ways? [DaveM.]* Hey, Mark Trail got merged with Greyhound a few years ago. [HarryM]* Was that the Comic Opera? [DaveM.]* Now it's Dog Track Express. [kipw] You should see them mark the trail. [HarryM]* OK, question on its way... [HarryM]* QUESTION THIRTEEN [HarryM]* COMPUTER ANIMATION [Robair]* Remember, Mark Trail is a Trade Mark. And that's nothing to cough at. [HarryM]* What is unusual about _Toy Story_, John Lasseter's upcoming computer-animated feature? [HarryM]* A) It is being produced entirely on Amiga microcomputers equipped with special software [HarryM]* B) It's in a special new 3-D process that requires no glasses [DaveM.]* Hey, you can't walk a dog for more than five feet in this neighborhood with out them stopping to sniff another dog's Trail Mark. [HarryM]* C) Lasseter licensed the rights to real toys to appear as characters, including Mr. Potatohead [HarryM]* D) At $100 million, it has by far the biggest budget of any animated film ever made [HarryM]* E) In a special promotional deal, it will be shown at shopping malls rather than theatres [kipw] I think Plastino may have ghosted "The Captain and the Kids," by the way. [DaveM.]* A) is right, but they're going to have a slight delay because they can;t get parts for the Amigas. [Robair]* F) It was supposed to play on 42nd street until they realized it wasn't that kind of toys [Emru]* F) It features Sabrina, the inflatable doll [HarryM]* Time's up! [kipw] g) It introduces Luxo III [HarryM]* All except Kip knew that the toys in this movie are real ones. [kipw] I'll get you! I'll get you all! [Robair]* Big deal! If you want to see toys move, watch any Barbie commerical! [HarryM]* I loved Luxo Jr. - and it's great that they named a Las Vegas hotel after it. [Robair]* But the J fell off teh sign. [kipw] The movie's subtitle: "Toys do not actually move" [DaveM.]* And that's Luxo Jr. himself beaming out of the top of the pyramid. [HarryM]* Another Q coming up... [HarryM]* QUESTION FOURTEEN [HarryM]* BLONDIE [DaveM.]* No, it's "Toys do not acutally move by themselves." Gotta be real legal about this. [HarryM]* Who is Hiho? [HarryM]* A) A boyfriend of Blondie's, who appeared before she married Dagwood [HarryM]* B) One of Daisy the dog's pups [HarryM]* C) Mr. Dithers' black-sheep son, who often appeared in the 1950s and 1960s [HarryM]* D) Hiho is the name of the cook at the diner that Dagwood frequents [HarryM]* E) Blondie's son, Alexander, was nicknamed Hiho when he was a baby [DaveM.]* "Mommy, My barbie doesn't swim by herself like it did on TV." [Robair]* f) Steve Allen [HarryM]* Time's up! [kipw] G) a saltine whose strip life was short [HarryM]* Kipndave knew that Hiho was Dag's rival for Blondie's affections. [DaveM.]* A sunshiny ripoff of Fritzi Ritz [Robair]* h) Phil Silver's illegitimate son [HarryM]* LOL Dave! [Robair]* Dave, you ought to be shot [DaveM.]* Know your cookies! Of course, Hiho was paid in all the Cheezits he could eat. [kipw] And went off singing "It's Off to work we go" [HarryM]* OK, 'nother question... [Robair]* All the Cheezits Dave can eat is a single digit. [HarryM]* QUESTION FIFTEEN [HarryM]* WARNER BROS. [HarryM]* What did Friz Freleng do when the Warner Bros. cartoon studio temporarily shut down in 1953? [HarryM]* A) Freleng briefly worked at Disney on _Sleeping Beauty_, along with Chuck Jones [HarryM]* B) Freleng worked on early animated TV commercials, including popular ones for Hamms' beer [HarryM]* C) Freleng wrote and produced _You're Never Too Young_, a successful stage play [HarryM]* D) Freleng unsuccessfully sued Warner Bros. for breach of contract [HarryM]* E) Freleng actually stayed at the studio during this time, working with a skeleton crew [HarryM]* Time's up! [DaveM.]* f) Started to write The Great American Novel, but only got as far as the first line -- "Call me Isadore" -- when the studio reopened [HarryM]* Kip and Dave knew that Friz never left... [kipw] F) They stood him up in a broom closet [DaveM.]* Hawley Pratt was still ther, too, from what I understand. [HarryM]* OK, another question... [HarryM]* QUESTION SIXTEEN [HarryM]* EDITORIAL CARTOONISTS [HarryM]* What is the name of the penguin who appears in each of Pat Oliphant's cartoons? [HarryM]* A) Percival [HarryM]* B) Punk [HarryM]* C) Little Pat [HarryM]* D) Waddler [HarryM]* E) He has never been given a name [DaveM.]* F) Opus [kipw] f) WoO ((Work without Opus)) [Emru]* F) Aloysius [kipw] ((a little classical music humor)) [kipw] That reminds me, I have piano lessons again. Yay! [HarryM]* Say, does anyone here rememver Aloysius from Highlights for Children magazine? [Emru]* F) Tennessee [DaveM.]* He was on the page right after Goofus and Gallant, wasn't he? [kipw] No, I'm a Goofus and Gallant fan myself. [HarryM]* (Kip and Dave got this right, btw -- he's Punk the Penguin, and briefly had his own Sunday comic strip.) [Robair]* Aloysius is Patrick Ewing's middle name. Whichn is a helluva thing to call [Robair]* someone 7 feet. [kipw] Dave's copying my answers, but only the correct ones! [HarryM]* No really, does anyone remember him? [HarryM]* Scores so far:. [kipw] Was Aloysius a kind of wimpy kid who thought about stuff a lot? [HarryM]* Dave: 13, Kip: 11, Emru and Rob': 9 apiece. [kipw] If he was in that picture page, I never could find him... [kipw] Dave's gonna take the prizes and leave... [HarryM]* No, he was a wolf or dog or somesuch who appeared in text stories.. [DaveM.]* He wasn't in any Picture Page. He quit before production began due to a salary dispute with Cosby. [kipw] That explains it. My dentist office time was too precious to read Text Stories. [HarryM]* OK, question seventeen,.,, [DaveM.]* Hey, I never read the text stories in Harvey Comics. [HarryM]* (I hsd my own subscription to Highlights for years, thanks to my grandparents.) [HarryM]* QUESTION SEVENTEEN [HarryM]* THE NEW YORKER [HarryM]* What is notable about New Yorker cartoonist Chon Day? [HarryM]* A) He is an 88 year-old artist who has been contributing to the magazine since approximately 1929 [HarryM]* B) He painted all of the magazine's covers from 1940 to 1946 [DaveM.]* I couldn't deal with words. [HarryM]* C) Day drew for the magazine under both his real name and the famous pseudonym Charles Addams [HarryM]* D) She is a 17 year-old New Jersey artist who is the magazine's youngest contributor [HarryM]* E) Day contributed to the magazine for fifty years from his home in Ireland, and never set foot in New York [DaveM.]* F) He is not associated with the rock group Green Day [Robair]* Is he realted to Robert Day? [DaveM.]* Or Steve Day? [kipw] G) What, besides the name? [HarryM]* Times up! And Kip and Dave knew that Chon is 88 and, I believe, the longest running NY contributor since the dea of [HarryM]* George Price. [DaveM.]* Steve Day is on my computer saying "We got a great fax from Dave Mackey" whenever my fax software fires up. [HarryM]* Who is Steve Day? [kipw] I'll miss George Price. I have several of his books. [HarryM]* And is he asny relation to Arbor Day or St. Swithins' Day? [kipw] Or Doris Day? [HarryM]* Price was a genius, even though he didn't do his own ideas. [DaveM.]* He used to be the announcer on "Caesar's Challenge" and he's now a program host on Game Show Network. [DaveM.]* I sent him a fax and he read it. And someone sent me the tape of it. [HarryM]* Gee! [kipw] Ever see his satirical sketches in _The Ice Cold War_? With Shakespeare quotes? [HarryM]* Does that mean that both of the Mackey Bros. have been mentioned on the channel? [DaveM.]* And I made a WAV of it. Simple, right? [DaveM.]* Yes, we have. Steve has even said Robair's name with mock disdain, [Robair]* I'm basiclaly mentioned in the same breath as Rolf Benoirschke (PLEASE don';t ask) [HarryM]* Question eighteen... [HarryM]* QUESTION EIGHTEEN [HarryM]* DISNEY DUCKS [HarryM]* Who is Fethry Duck? [HarryM]* A) He is Uncle Scrooge's brother in Carl Barks's comic book stories [HarryM]* B) A cowardly waterfowl who is Pocahontas's best friend in the upcoming Disney film [HarryM]* C) He's what Donald Duck is called in most parts of Europe [HarryM]* D) An dim-witted Australian creation who appears in Disney comic books [HarryM]* E) He is Daisy Duck's boyfriend in the 1938 cartoon _Donald's Rival_ [Emru]* my [Emru]* nn/msg HarryM [DaveM.]* This is only a wild guess. [kipw] F) Any duck that isn't "Baldy Duck" [Emru]* What the... [HarryM]* Time's up! [HarryM]* And congratulations to Kipper and Dave: he's an Australian creation. [DaveM.]* Kip's cop[ying off me! [kipw] I saw Fethry in some strips reprinted in a Disney magazine around 1971. [HarryM]* Only six more questions to go... [Robair]* I will soon owe poitns... [HarryM]* Was that the magazine given out by Gulf stations?>
[kipw] Robair, let me buy two points, man!
[DaveM.]* Quite possibly. Dad brought those home for us all the time. He was a
Gulf dealer.
[HarryM]* I have fond memories of getting those.’
[kipw] Gulf sounds right.
[kipw] I still have a couple.
[HarryM]* I also had a great Gulf record of Disney songs.
[HarryM]* He started you off right, Dave!
[HarryM]* OK, question time…
[HarryM]* QUESTION NINETEEN
[HarryM]* CONTEMPORARY COMICS
[HarryM]* In Heidi Stetson’s comic strip _Ophelia and Jake_, who are Ophelia
and Jake?
[HarryM]* A) They are a husband-and-wife team of grizzly bears
[HarryM]* B) Ophelia is a little girl; Jake is her pet rabbit
[HarryM]* C) Ophelia is a rabbit; Jake is her owner, a little boy
[HarryM]* D) They are a Generation-X couple who live in Seattle
[HarryM]* E) Ophelia is a witch; Jake is her magical lizard
[DaveM.]* This is too current for me. This is like
third-comic-page-of-New_York-Post material.
[HarryM]* Time’s up!
[kipw] F) a Fat Man’s sidekick, and Hamlet’s girlfriend
[HarryM]* This is the first question tongiht that stumped everyone…
[HarryM]* Opherlia is a girl, Jake is a bunny.
[HarryM]* Actually, Ophelia and Jake may have been cancelled; it was launched
around 1989 or so.
[kipw] You’re making this all up, right? It’s the bears, right?
[Robair]* Does the bunny speak or move? And how is this strip different from
Calvin?
[DaveM.]* Did you guys know that”Mike Danger” has been cancelled? It is
finishing up in a few weeks.
[kipw] ?Well, the little girl is a dialectical materialist.
[HarryM]* I think the bunny thinks but doesn’t speak. And he is a real rabbit,
not a doll.
[HarryM]* But the strip is definitely Calvin-influenced.
[HarryM]* I never saw Mike Danger in the first place…
[DaveM.]* He’s going to comic books.
[Robair]* He’s going to be in our paper for the next three weeks, and that
will be it
[HarryM]* OK, question twenty (only five more to go!)
[Robair]* for Mike Danger.
[HarryM]* QUESTION TWENTY
[HarryM]* FANTASIA
[HarryM]* In Disney’s upcoming revised version of _Fantasia_, which of the
following sequences will appear?
[HarryM]* A) A scene with the crocodiles from the orignal film, set to Elton
John’s _Crocodile Rock_
[HarryM]* B) A tribute to Mickey Mouse’s seventy years in show business, set
to Scott Joplin’s _The Entertainer_
[HarryM]* C) A truncated, animated version of the Who’s rock opera _Tommy_
[HarryM]* D) A Noah’s Ark sequence starring Donald Duck, set to _Pomp and
Circumstance_
[HarryM]* E) A tribute to composer Leonard Bernstein, starring all the Disney
characters
[HarryM]* Time’s up, and you all knew about this Donald sequence…
[DaveM.]* F) the centaurettes from “Rite Of Spring” dancing to “Shake Your
Booty”
[kipw] F) A creepy claymation sequence to something by Philip Glass
[HarryM]* G) Shnookums and Meat dancing to a bit of Wagner music.
[DaveM.]* How about John Cage? He’d make sor some frightening stuff.
[HarryM]* OK, questions 21…
[HarryM]* er, question 21…
[kipw] Something by Yoko…
[HarryM]* QUESTION TWENTY-ONE
[HarryM]* HARVEY COMICS
[HarryM]* Who is Lazo?
[HarryM]* A) Richie Rich’s gardener, an obese and slow-moving elderly Frenchman
[HarryM]* B) Little Dot’s uncle, the world’s laziest man
[HarryM]* C) One of the Ghostly Trio in the Casper comics
[HarryM]* D) The little brother of Hot Stuff, the Li’l Devil
[HarryM]* E) Sad Sack’s bunkmate, the only soldier lazier than the Sack himself
[DaveM.]* Whatever it is, it’s another high-concept creation of those fun
makers at Harvey Famous Pictures Studios Comics.
[kipw] F) Walt Disney’s secret financier
[Robair]* f) He made those TV-set looking portraits of the gang in the 1960’s
[HarryM]* Weird — everybody said B)…and nobody was right!
[Robair]* Then it’s C!
[kipw] Let’s put it to a vote!
[HarryM]* Lazo was one of the Ghostly Trio.
[Emru]* If everyone said B, then it *must* be B.
[DaveM.]* It’s B by acclimation!
[DaveM.]* Get me Sid Jacobson!
[Robair]* Uncle Lazo! Say something?
[HarryM]* Wait until the movie comes out this Summer!
[Robair]* “I’M TOO FREAKING LAZY!”
[HarryM]* I also remember that another member of the Trio was Fatso, but I
don’t remember the nam,e of the third one.
[kipw] The Marx brother who never got out of bed.
[DaveM.]* Fatso was the guy who was the subject of the famous lawsuit with
Clumbia Pictures.
[HarryM]* Here’s Room 222 (er, question 22)…
[Robair]* I always thought there was a Three Wise Men connection.
[HarryM]* QUESTION TWENTY-TWO
[HarryM]* POGO
[HarryM]* Which of the following was an actual example of merchandisng of Walt
Kelly’s _Pogo_?
[HarryM]* A) The Pogomobile, a cut-out mobile that sold for one dollar
[HarryM]* B) The Pogomobile, a car for children briefly manufactured by
General Motors in the mid-1950s
[HarryM]* C) Porkypine’s, a Cajun restaurant chain founded by Selby Kelly,
Walt’s widow, in 1992
[HarryM]* D) Pogos, a line of children’s sneakers that were popular in the
early 1960s
[HarryM]* E) Pogo’s Possum Juice, a Mountain Dew-like soft drink manufactured
by Dr. Pepper in the 1970s
[Robair]* What was the answer to the last question? Did I miss something?
[DaveM.]* F) The Pogo Stick (anatomically correct)… now you can Play Possum
[kipw] f) Pogo sticks, used for clubbing stray possums. Not a success.
[kipw] The Ghost one wasC.
[HarryM]* Robair <-- The answer was C) [HarryM]* And the answer to this question was A) -- Kip and Emru got it right... [DaveM.]* I always liked the "Club Soda, Not Seals" stickers. It shows a Seal enjoying a Club Soda. [Robair]* I said it was C, but nobody confirmed it. [kipw] Well, not in so many words, but he said it was the ghost. [DaveM.]* Of course it's too late for a "Club Soda, Not Seal" sticker. His face looks like he's beenout Clubbing too long. [HarryM]* Didn;t you see me say the following: [HarryM]* [HarryM]* Lazo was one of the Ghostly Trio. [HarryM]* Was this a Pogo sticker? [Robair]* Beats me...I'm sorto of half aware. [kipw] Okay, here's my next three answers, just to save time... [HarryM]* (Pregnant pause) [kipw] F, F, and F. I'll put in the funny part later. [HarryM]* Did you see my question about whether the seal sticker was a Pogo sticker? [DaveM.]* Club Pogo, not Seals. [DaveM.]* I, of course, prefer Club Merv. [kipw] Ah. [HarryM]* OK, don't answer my question, Dave... [HarryM]* Here's another : [HarryM]* QUESTION TWENTY-THREE [HarryM]* SUPERHEROES ON THE SCREEN [HarryM]* Which of the following currently well-known performers played a superhero early in their career? [HarryM]* A) Charlie Sheen, who played Robin in a 1982 _Batman_ TV special [HarryM]* B) Walter Matthau, who played Plastic Man in an unsold TV pilot in 1961 [HarryM]* C) Kathleen Turner, who played the Black Canary in the little-seen 1978 film _Green Arrow_ [HarryM]* D) Debra Winger, who played Wondergirl in the 1970s Lynda Carter _Wonder Woman_ show [HarryM]* E) All of the above [DaveM.]* No, it wasn't a Pogo sticker! [DaveM.]* ::grin:: [HarryM]* Time's up! All but Dave knew about Debra's early role. [Emru]* F) Christian Slater as Alpha Flight's Puck, in a little-known direct to video release. [HarryM]* No, Christian Slater is playing Lazo in the Casper movie. [kipw] Christian slater: "Who the Puck Ya Talkin To?" [HarryM]* Of course, Christian Slater changed his name when he was an aspring actor... [HarryM]* He was originally "Seventh Day Adventist Slater." [kipw] I remember him when he was "The Magic Christian." [DaveM.]* Ouch! I got her mixed up with Dyna Girl. [Emru]* Aaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrggghhhh! [Emru]* There. [kipw] (That's Mr. Christian to you.) [Emru]* I said it. [Emru]* Now I feel better. [HarryM]* (The Magic Christian is one of my favorite books.) [DaveM.]* Sometimes it's good just to vent, Emru. [kipw] It was a better book than movie. [HarryM]* Well, only two questions to go... [HarryM]* Yeah, the movie's not so hot. Onme of the few times that Peter Sellers was miscast, and it shouldn't have been re-set in England. [kipw] And of course, on TV, they cut all the nudity. [HarryM]* OK, question 24... [HarryM]* QUESTION TWENTY-FIVE [HarryM]* THE SIMPSONS [HarryM]* What was different about Bart Simpson in his earliest appearances on _The Tracey Ullman Show_? [HarryM]* A) He had bright red hair and freckles [HarryM]* B) He was voiced by Tracey herself, as was Lisa Simpson [HarryM]* C) He spoke all his dialogue in rhyme [HarryM]* D) He was older -- appearently in his early teens [HarryM]* E) He was younger -- in fact, he wore diapers in early episodes [HarryM]* Time's up! [HarryM]* Only Dave got this one right -- Bart was quite tall and different looking in early episodes. [DaveM.]* It's because all the other responses were preposterous. [kipw] So was that A or D? [HarryM]* Note: I just asked question 25 by mistake. The next question will be #24. [DaveM.]* It was D, Kip. [HarryM]* It was D) [Robair]* Thank you for telling us all we chose preposterous answers. [kipw] Oh, no wonder! I was giving the answer to number 24! [DaveM.]* Anytime, Bob! [HarryM]* Are we ready for the final question, which will determine the winner of our grand prize tonight? [kipw] Is it in doubt? [HarryM]* QUESTION TWENTY-FOUR [HarryM]* THE PRIVATE LIFE OF WALT DISNEY [HarryM]* Why did Walt Disney take up model railroading as a hobby? [HarryM]* A) His father, Elias Disney, had been a railroad conductor in the early part of the century [HarryM]* B) His doctor advised him to take up an absorbing hobby for the sake of his mental health [HarryM]* C) His daughters, Diane and Sharon, were fanatical train fans who asked him to build a railroad [DaveM.]* It could be. [HarryM]* D) Humphrey Bogart, Walt's friend, presented him with a train set as a birthday present [HarryM]* E) Disney used his railroad to test ideas for later use at Disneyland [Emru]* F) It's a Freudian thing. [kipw] G) The real ones were too expensive. [DaveM.]* G) he got railroaded into it yb Ward Kimball [HarryM]* Time's up, and the contest is over! [Emru]* ( ( ( ((GONG)) ) ) ) [kipw] Perfect timing: the Trapp Family is just singing their "Goodnight" song. [HarryM]* It's all over! It's all over! [DaveM.]* Yes, but there's stil an hour or so of "The Ten Commandments" left. I guess there's about two left to do. [Robair]* The votes are in and the new pope is the head cheerleader or the captain of the football team! [kipw] By the way, Dave, what did you want to know about my MIDI setup? [HarryM]* IS _The Sound of Music_ on? I was watching _Annie_ earlier this evening... [HarryM]* ?(Which I've never forgiven for not crediting Harold Gray in any way.) [DaveM.]* I wanted to know about sheet music programs. How to make them. [kipw] NBC is showing it with the 29 minutes they usually cut. [DaveM.]* Reallly? I thought NBC was showing it complete. [HarryM]* Eidelweiss...Eidelweiss... [kipw] Well, Dave, I'm using "MusicTyme," which is on a CD. [HarryM]* (I'd rather thee TSOM with *more* footage cut out.) [HarryM]* Anyhow, here's the final score [DaveM.]* ...overworked, underfed Edelweiss... (oops... wrong show tune) [HarryM]* Dave wins with 18... [HarryM]* Kip comes in second with 16... [DaveM.]* Harry is still totalling the numbers. [HarryM]* Emru, who is just playing for fun, got 14... [HarryM]* And Robair scores with 11. [DaveM.]* Yay for the winners! All three of them! [kipw] Don't I have 17? [Emru]* Yeah! i deliberately threw the game! [HarryM]* That means that Dave, Kip, and Robair all get prizes. [kipw] Me too, but just not very well. [DaveM.]* Well, whos' elft? [Robair]* Emru threw the game? [HarryM]* As a moderator, Emru is not eligible for prizes. [DaveM.]* I threw a game once. I threw a box of Rack-O at Robair because he cheated. [HarryM]* Well, I count 16, Kip, but could be wrong... [Robair]* I didn;t know how to play Racko in 1971! I thought you could use your rack to sort your cards. [DaveM.]* I still say you cheated. [HarryM]* ] [Robair]* brb [kipw] Of course I cheated. I threw the game, like Emru. [HarryM]* Kip says he got question 10 right, which I had him down as not getting. Does anyone have alog handy (not that it matters in the standings)... [kipw] Anyway, Dave, the board works with my MIDI keyboard and Sound Blaster 16. [kipw] It's Lo-og, it's Lo-og, it's big, it's heavy, it's wood! [DaveM.]* My buffer doesn't go back that far. [kipw] I can't look until it's all over. Still, it's moot anyway. [DaveM.]* Kip -- I'm looking for something to make sheet music from scratch, such as from an arrangement or freehand. [HarryM]* Do we want to break up the prizes? [kipw] Dave, that's what I did with the Dudley Do-Right. I used the MIDI keyboard and... [DaveM.]* First prize is a free membership in APATOONS. [kipw] ...computer keyboard to input the notes. They can also be grabbed and placed from a palette. [DaveM.]* (Really useful gift.) [HarryM]* First prize is an original cel and matching background from Pinocchio. [DaveM.]* I used a shareware program whose name I forget, but it has shortcomings. It's from this outfit in Scotland called Selkirk. [kipw] If I kill Dave, can I have it? [HarryM]* Second prize is a copy of the original 1942 _Art of Walt Disney_, with inscription and drawing of Mickey by Walt disney. [DaveM.]* Is this a April Fool koke? [kipw] Say, I hear those are rare... [DaveM.]* er, joke! [kipw] Don't wake me up, man! [HarryM]* Third prize is a $100 gift certificate to the Dudley Do-Right Emporium. [HarryM]* Oops, I was just daydreaming... [DaveM.]* Not useful at Drug Emporium. [DaveM.]* How about the Dudley Do-Right Drug Emporium? Of course, Nell loved Dudley but Dudly loved Horse. [kipw] (I know, you're all watching SOUND OF MUSIC now. The graveyard scene.) [HarryM]* First prize is actually a cel and backgroun from _The Brady Kids_ [Robair]* And fifth prize is a PEN! [DaveM.]* Nancy is watching a Tourmaline ring on Home Shopping. [kipw] (Good one, Rob!) [HarryM]* Second prize is an incscribed copy of Jeff Lenburg's _The Great Cartoon Directors_. [HarryM]* And third prize is a $2 gift certificate to the Filmation Studio Store. [kipw] I knew there was a good reason not to buy that! [Robair]* No, I'm watching something else--the worst episode of "The JEtsons" ever, "The Century's Best". [DaveM.]* That was the 65th and final episode, until the went back and did the last 10 in 1987. [HarryM]* ...Which John Kricfalusi worked on. [DaveM.]* I think Mark Young wrote it. [HarryM]* Anyhoo, here are the prizes: [kipw] He's Mark Middle-Aged now. [HarryM]* * A subscription to Animato magazine [HarryM]* * _Pogo Even Better_ (An excellent book collection of the classic strip) [HarryM]* * _Disney's the Art of Animation_ (lavish Bob Thomas book on the studio) [HarryM]* * _The Best of H.T. Webster_ (large 1951 collection of drawings by the [HarryM]* great cartoonist) [HarryM]* * _Dahl's Boston_ (terrific book of cartoons by the seasoned social [HarryM]* cartoonist) [HarryM]* * _Duckman_ comics #1 [HarryM]* * _Krusty Comics_ #1 [HarryM]* * _Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs_ (reprint of the classic adaptation_ [HarryM]* Dave gets to pick three of these. [DaveM.]* For $115, Ill take the Ceramic Dalmatian. [kipw] Arf! [HarryM]* Leapin' Lizards! [DaveM.]* No, I'll take the Thomas, the Pogo, and the Webster. [kipw] Rather, "Woof! Woof! Hi, I'm Rags!" [DaveM.]* And Mr. Mustard in the parlor with the switchblade. [HarryM]* OK, Kip: pick two of the remaining prizes... [DaveM.]* "That's right! And if it weren't for you meddling kids, I;d have gotten away with it!" [kipw] Well, even though it means admitting I don't have one already... [kipw] I'll take the Animato sub. And Snow White. I already have Dahl. [HarryM]* That's _Colonel_ Mustard to you...Mr. Mustard is from _Yello Submarine_. [kipw] (And Webster, too. Great choice, Dave!) [DaveM.]* Anyone here have an extra Animato! 29 to spare? Duquette never sent me a comp of that issue, with Lantz on the cover. [HarryM]* Actually, I have *two* copies of Dahl and Webster. Which is why they ended up a prizes here. [kipw] I was just re-reading the Webster collection again. [kipw] I would like to find another of his titles, but that's the only one I ever see. [HarryM]* I might, Dave...I'll check. [HarryM]* Robair: pick two prizes... [DaveM.]* I just got 30 and 31 in the mail Friday. [kipw] Take the pen! the pen! [Robair]* I will select Duckman and Krusty. [HarryM]* (Did anyone watch the Simpsons tonight? A good episode...) [HarryM]* OK! Thanks and congratualtions to all. [Robair]* Mom watched it--she can never sit through a whole episode. [kipw] Yeah. Wish I could have stayed tuned for THE CRITIC, but Fox, in its finite wisdom... [HarryM]* The prizes will probably go out really quickly, unless I take them to SF and mail from there. [Robair]* I have yet to see "George and Junior" tonight though. [DaveM.]* Great job, folks! Thanks for making my dying days on BIX quite memorable. It's been a great 5-1/2 years but it's time to move along. [HarryM]* _The Critic_ is my favorite modern animated sitcom, except for the best episodes of _The Simpsons_. [kipw] Dave, any other questions on the music? [HarryM]* Yes, Dave, and pelase keep in touch via e-mail! [DaveM.]* I'll see you all on the Internet. [DaveM.]* Not quite now, Kip. [Robair]* Of course, it isn't goodbye for me, but Bix was truly lucky to have Dave. [DaveM.]* We shall. [HarryM]* "Now it's time to say goodbye to sll our company..." [Robair]* Goodnit, everyone! [HarryM]* Well, one Mackey is better than none... [DaveM.]* THe plug will be pulled as soon as I make arrangements with my new local access provider. [Robair]* (fading into view) [Robair]* ... [DaveM.]* Nite, Robair! [kipw] Night, Robair! [HarryM]* You have big shoes to fill, Robair, but your feet are probably just the right size. [HarryM]* Good night, Robiar! [Emru]* So long, Dave. It was a great 5 1/2 years. Robair, you've got big shoes to fill. (They're cartoon shoes, after all.) [DaveM.]* Hey, don't forget... Robair and I once bought the same exact pair of shoes 70 miles apart one day. [kipw] You each bought one! [DaveM.]* Black Fayvas, size 9. Identical style. [DaveM.]* He bought is near home; I got mine in Hoboken. [DaveM.]* Bye everyone! Bye BIX! [kipw] Bye, Dave! [HarryM]* Good night, Dave! [DaveM.]* Nite all! [Emru]* Good night, Dave! [kipw] Well, it's getting sort of quiet. [HarryM]* Any other news, anyone? [kipw] Well, there's my piano lessons. [HarryM]* Taking or giving? [kipw] Just taking. There's things I really need to improve. [kipw] Seems to be going well, so far. [HarryM]* I have a copy of _The Miracle_ piano-lesson software, but can't get it to work with my computer. [HarryM]* I think my MIDI port is busted. [kipw] It's a shame about Dave. I didn't see what the board was like before, but it sit seems far from dead to me. [Emru]* A question: Should I post a review of the Keroppi Day Hopper to the conference? [HarryM]* Sure! [kipw] It's always something. Since we got the sound blaster in, the scanner's dead. [kipw] It took the 5-inch drive with it, it seems. [HarryM]* Well, it's far from dead, but activity is way down from four or five years ago. (It's a BIX-wide problem.) [kipw] I'm kind of lucky that I can just enter BIX from the Internet. Wht does everyone else have to do? Phone in long distance? [Emru]* Yep. I remember when CBIX was first made public -- despite the costlier billing structure at the time, it was impossible to get a word in edgewise. [HarryM]* I dial into a local computer (BIX is based in Cambridge.) [Emru]* I connect via Tymnet or Sprintnet. [kipw] Yeah, we're on Telnet. [HarryM]* I'll have to figure out the best way to get to BIX from San Francisco. [kipw] Actually, "Beavis and Butt-Head" was pretty funny. Their teacher is telling them about the joys of animation, and the limitless possibilities, and they're not moving. [kipw] I was in San Francisco just ten years ago, for a convention. [HarryM]* Well, seeing as I have dso much work to do before I leave for SF, I should probably sign off for the night. [Emru]* I've never been. [kipw] The only time I was back to California since me infink days. [HarryM]* I like SF. Especially the coast and wine country. [Emru]* I'd better call it a night as well; long day ahead of me tomorrow. [HarryM]* It;s just that I lioke Boston too, and friends and family are here. [kipw] It was nice, all right. Well, I think I'll probably go to bed soon, too. [kipw] Good night, everyone. Thanks for the swell time. [HarryM]* OK, good night all! [Emru]* G'night, folks. [kipw] Unlike last week, there was not wall of busy signal keeping me out for two hours! [kipw] Bye for now.